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Dean Kiley's avatar

So ludicrously eloquent and often lyrical, with flaneur rhythms, pace and wandering scope, that the incisive commentary gets into the bone. Ooof.

Zanzibar Buck-buck McFate's avatar

My feeling is, a nation that's been occupied or under threat gets to use its' flag as a symbol of resistance. What threat is England under, as opposed to the UK? Why do we need a sense of identity independent of Scotland or Wales? I don't love the US but we have signed a treaty with them, they are not an occupying power exactly. Many of our immigrants are from countries that we occupied and instilled a sense of British identity in. I don't think England gets to retreat from the international stage the way Ireland did after independence, we are too integrated with the international apparatus, permanent seat on the security council etc. So outside the context of sport (which best case scenario is a safe place to let tribalism out to play for a bit) I am suspicious of the St George's Cross.

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